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SMJR Revisited Part 2 now out
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Firing the Steel Trains – an interview with Ex-Woodford fireman Albert Fennell

During the 1950’s previous to the closure of Stratford – Broom Junction of the SMJR,  five trains each way ran nightly along the SMJ ( Mondays – Saturdays) from Woodford yard to Broom conveying semi- finished steel products from the North of England…
May 13
Simon Dunkley commented on Dick's page East & West Junction and SMJR liveries
"There is a lovely maker's photo of a timber bolster wagon, taken about 1903/4 time (and therefore out of copyright), which shows the EWJR carriage livery very well. It also shows a missing full-stop after the E! "
May 12
Dick commented on Dick's page The SMJR in Books and Magazine Articles - A List
"Simon That's interesting and thanks very much  for your livery info which I will incorporate into the main article. Excuse my ignorance but what does HMRS stand for and what exactly was a steward for the same? Dick"
May 12
Simon Dunkley commented on Dick's page The SMJR in Books and Magazine Articles - A List
"Dick, Most of the updated information in the revised edition was added by Richard Allen, the HMRS steward for the SMJR. The original has some different photos, though - so I got both! How big a hand Richard had in re-writing I do not know, but the…"
May 11
Simon Dunkley commented on Dick's page East & West Junction and SMJR liveries
"Just to muddy the waters, according to Riley and Simpson, the old Manning, Wardle was brown, lined yellow-black-yellow, as was number 2, at least until rebuilding in 1903/4. This may have been true of 3 and 4, but I am less sure of this (even as a…"
May 11
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East & West Junction and SMJR liveries

East & West Junction Railway   According to J M Dunn’s revised 1977 edition of The Stratford & Midland Junction Railway (Oakwood) Locos numbered 1 - 12 prior to 1908 carried crimson lake livery, lined out with black edged on both sides by yellow,…
May 10
Dick commented on Dick's page Locomotive types seen on SMJR rails
"Updated with more info about workings - 8th May 2012"
May 8
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Ghost Stories

I've just read 'Mysterious Northamptonshire' by Daniel Codd (Breedon Books 2009) which contains a couple of references to the SMJR and to the Blakesley hall Miniature Railway. Its an excellent read too for anyone with a general interest in Northamptonshire.One story concerns a man who stopped his car to answer a call of nature by a bridge over a cutting of the disused Northampton and Banbury line near Bradden, presumably the one on the Blakesley to Silverstone road.  He saw a bright light…See More
May 8
Dick commented on Dick's page The SMJR in Books and Magazine Articles - A List
"I've recently acquired Dunn's 1970s revised version (with 76 pages) of his Oakwood Press SMJR book and hadn't previously realised how far superior it is to his original 30 page effort published…"
May 8
John Evans commented on Dick's page Last Years of the SMJ Pickups
"Fascinating - I well remember the endless line of wagons stretching over the bridge across the A43 near Towcester. My dad said that he'd also seen lots of  wagons near Stoke Bruerne and Roade, which figures. There is a picture in one of my…"
Apr 24
John Evans replied to Dick's discussion 'SMJR Revisited Part 2 now out'
"Thanks for the heads up Andy, I've got my daughter on the case. I'm sorry I missed the first issue. I have about 30 more 1960s slides to load over the next week or two. Thanks agaiun John"
Apr 4
Dick commented on Dick's page The SMJR in Books and Magazine Articles - A List
"Thanks Colin, now added to the list.   Dick"
Apr 4
Colin Franklin commented on Dick's page The SMJR in Books and Magazine Articles - A List
"Another book that has three SMJR pictures in it is "Cross Country Steam" by Stanley Creer (Ian Allan Ltd 1979, ISBN 0 7110 0928 7)."
Apr 4
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Woodford Halse Model Railway Club's Woodford layout

The Woodford Halse Archive are having an open day at the Social Club, formerly known as The Furze, on Sunday 13th May, when it will be possible to view the Woodford Halse Model Railway Club's Woodford layout as well. Unfortunately I don't know the exact opening time sbut last year I seem to remember that it ran from approximately mid morning until about 4pm.See More
Apr 3
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SMJR Revisited Part 2 now out

Barry Taylor's very interesting series about the SMJ is continued in April 2012 ' Railway Bylines' now on sale, with coverage of the Blisworth - Banbury ( ie. original N & B railway) section. I hope they've sent Barry a copy this time!!!See More
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At 22:05 on February 25, 2012, Paul Stratford said…

Dick

Yes I am that photographer, the SMJ has fond memories for me and was the catalyst for my intersest in railways. It is hard to believe and I still cannot believe it myself that some fifty years on as a trainee fireman on the GWSR that I fired a 9F between Toddington and Winchcombe hauling a goods train which is where the goods ran after closure of the Stratford  to Broom section in 1960.

Paul

At 10:09 on July 18, 2011, John Jennings said…

Dick

After the demise of the pick up goods with its ex MR 4F loco all traffic that came into the SMJ yard at Stratford was handled by the duty loco at Stratford GW. This loco was almost always a 2251 class loco that was primarily used to bank freights out of the GW station in the up direction until they were all cleared out around early 1964. After that various small ex LMS or BR standard 2 or 3 types were used for a while but by early 1965 there was often no loco available for this duty and by 1966 all banking duties had been withdrawn. Until the ex GW sub-shed at Stratford closed the 2251 allocation was serviced at Tyesley after closure they were moved to Leamington ex GW. If you give me your direct e-mail I will send you a load of notes concerning the activities at Stratford GW that will allow you some perspective of how the railways at Stratford operated. I don't think it appropriate to lodge them on this site as they are not strictly SMJ line related.

 

At 19:18 on July 17, 2011, alwyn sparrow said…

       The wagon labels I have posted show the ash traffic to Ettington as described by John Jennings.The traffic has originated from various western region engine sheds. The recipient at Ettington was a Mr H.J.Jaques. Although the labels are from an earlier period than discussed.

At 16:38 on July 17, 2011, alwyn sparrow said…

 Hi Dick                                                                                                                                      The wagon labels I have posted show the ash traffic to Ettington as described by John Jennings.The traffic has originated from various western region engine sheds. The recipient at Ettington was a Mr H.J.Jaques. Although the labels are from an earlier period than discussed.

 

At 15:23 on July 17, 2011, John Jennings said…

Hi Dick

After the demise of the pick up goods no traffic came to or from Stratford to either Ettington or Kineton. I was in the brake van of the trip working that went to clear the remaining trucks from these two stations. The guard had been told that all traffic for the MOD was routed via Fenny Compton and empties there would go out that way. The situation at Clifford Sidings was a little better. It remained open for traffic because of a contract with a local coal and ash merchant who had ash delivered in standard 10t open trucks from various loco sheds that were still open for steam. I remember that the labels on the trucks indicated various sources including Leamington Spa and Nuneaton. This traffic came in via the GW yard at Stratford and was trip worked by the Collet 2251 class loco kept there for banking duties. This was a daily trip regardless of whether any traffic was about because as there was no fresh drinking water at Clifford a churn of water was taken up daily. If there was no traffic to move this would just be taken as a light engine move to remove the necessity of a brakevan and guard. The final traffic to Ettington was fertiliser in sacks and Kineton received coal and fertiliser. I believe the merchant was an agent of Warwichshire Farmers Co-op. The ash merchant at Clifford just seemed to vanish after the supply of ash dwindled due to the on going closure of steam loco sheds. The SMJ yard at Old Town handled coal and bagged agricultural traffic until around summer 1963 again this was worked down from the ex GW yard at Birmingham Road. The two merchants involved were Dingley's and the CoOperative Coal dept. 

At 7:49 on February 18, 2011, Keith Simmons said…

Hi Dick thanks for your reply re Byfield/Woodford

Rex and Chris Bazeley hold GCR section meetings once a month - they meet i think on the 2nd wednesday of each month

 

The social Club is holding an open day again this year

The Model Railway was donated some money for renovation work by the Social Club on the premise that we would have an open day

We got all other local groups involved including Rex and Chris with a GCR slideshow and memorabilia

The Byfield Photo Archive

Woodford Historical Society/Photo Archive

It was a good day

I believe it is planned this year for the 14th May  i will keep this site posted

 

Thanks

Keith

At 17:15 on November 30, 2010, Robert Blair said…
Hello Dick, sorry it has taken me so long in getting in touch with you, but thankyou for your reply dated the 15/11/2010. More info on Harold Drinkwater 1882-1941, census records for 1911 his age was 29 & a Signelman & Porter, so I don't really know when he started & left that job at the station. I took all the Blakesley Station photo's & Blakesley Map to show my Dad , well all the memories came flooding back (to say the least), & we spent well over an hour, (dad talking, me listening) about the picture's & map. According to Dad that was his "Heaven" knew every inch of that area, even where to pick the "Best Mushroom's" at 5.30am, & went on to say that "they were the Best Summer school Holiday's he ever had". Sorry to say they stopped when the war came along.I will have to pop over to Blakesley some time as Dad did mention that he carved his initial's on the wall of the bridge, I don't suppose they are still there!!!, also he did say that he remember's the name Tew being spoken, & a Mr & Mrs Franklin lived opposite Bertha & Harold's house. Hope you don't mind me asking , but do you live in Blakesley? It's just that I am doing the Family Tree ,& we have a Mary Ann Drinkwater 1834 married to a Joseph Bodily 1824-1907, any connection's?. Well that's all, (sorry if it got a bit boring) , & "THANKYOU" once again for the photo's. Kind regard's. Carol.
At 13:44 on November 15, 2010, Robert Blair said…
Dick, Thankyou for your reply on 04/11/2010 to my husband about our interest in Blakesley Station.The lady you mentioned, Bertha was my Great Grandmother, & her eldest daughter Mabel Annie was my Nan, & her sister's were Grace & Joyce. My Nan, on a couple of occasion's on a Sunday afternoon took me to see Grace & Derek who then lived at Woodend. I would be very very happy to hear of any more information or storie's, & possibly if you were interested & could spare the time, in meeting up with me, to share these.Ooop's forgot to mention that Bertha was the wife of Harold Drinkwater, Signalman/Porter at Blakesley Station (1920's-1930's), Also love all the photo's, can't wait to show them to my Dad (Eric Fairey), Mabel's son, ( he's the one who started all this !!! ). Hope to hear from you soon. Kind regard's Carol.
At 9:42 on August 18, 2010, Simon Dunkley said…
I'm from Northampton originally, and brought up in the knowledge that I have a local surname, local including a large part of the county. (Surname appears to be reasonably common in Leicestershire, too.) Exactly where it is from and what it means is a matter of debate.
At 16:41 on June 13, 2010, alwyn sparrow said…
Dick
Very much enjoyed meeting you .
Alwyn.
 
 
 

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